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    CFB Playoff System

    "Winning on the field gets you in "

    That's proven bullshit.....recently, OSU WON its final game of the season and moved DOWN and out of the final 4 (from #4), and a idle team that did not play that week moved into that spot....all based on the OPINIONS of the "selection committee" members. So "winning on the field" does not get you in; your "ancient reputations" with the "figure skating judges" plays a big part (and that's crap playoff system that needs reforming!).
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    ^ Folks go thru the same machinations and rationalizations when defending the why's and how's that Figure Skater A won over Figure Skater B and why she/he "deserves" their "victory". All 100% bullshit; just like AO's above "logic". Just biased and slanted bloviating and pathetic justification for a deeply flawed "good ol boy" infested process.

    Sports is ONLY about who wins and who loses when ANY two teams meet....not who SHOULD win or who the "judges" picked/blessed/favored/rationalized/profited to make the fake playoffs. All crap and very unfair to the coaches and players who 100% determine who wins on ANY given match up. Not a committee of fallible egomaniacs desperate to relive their glory days and remain relevant and "important". So pathetic... Not to mention how the running up the score and piling on by the "front runners" who strategically schedule weak teams for this purpose and that this current system "demands" in order to impress the "committee members", humiliates and does not teach sportsmanship...only "winning" at any costs (just like progressive Democrats running these schools view politics..). I say do away with all of these games and shorten the season to only games against teams in your conference and use these humiliating "cream puff" game slots (that only serve to humiliate weaker conference team's players..) to go to a three round 6 team playoff (with 1 and 2 getting a 1st round bye) system that consists of the 5 Conference champs and one wildcard team that is the non-conference winning team from these 5 conference with the best record. Simple and mirrors the pro's playoff systems.
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    Ed, ease up.
    Don't let your heart attack you over this.
    From our end it is just about entertainment.

    CFB is a huge $$ deal. That does not mean it is less or more than in the 40's. I am positive the rules are more enforced now than in the days of a Bear Bryant or a Woody Hayes. Colleges still cheat but I don't think schools like OHS, Alabama, or Clemson do. They don't need to as that is part of their attraction.

    CFB teams cannot play all the games like base ball and basket ball. Right now all the guys on all the CFB teams are beat to hell. All of them, not just the guys out.
    The same team does not line up every week. It takes a team effort.

    As to schedules, all teams have cupcakes. Aside from that, it is hard to know which team will be good or bad as schedules are made years out. My team Clemson plays 2 SEC top teams every year and the ACC.

    Clemson and many like (Alabama) do not run up the score. When the game is in hand they get all the kids on the field for experience. It would be crazy to tell these eager kids to take the field and not do their best. Even so, the play calling changes.

    Sportsmanship is a big deal at top programs and greatly exceds real life.
    I can think of no better venue than CFB as to teaching that.

    It is true that every week teams do not face Alabama.
    Teams must play there conference foes.
    In addition their are weeks against teams to prepare or maybe recover.
    The Tigers play 2 SEC teams every year and who else does that?

    As to playing FBS teams, often they win and at least have the opportunity for that. For some of these playing at Clemson or OHS, it is a huge $$ infusion to the their program. As a fan, want to play Georgia every week, but ?

    Right now a team must play 15 games to be champion. Not long ago it was 11.
    15 games is brutal on players as this aint field hockey or ping pong.

    Adding more games or expanding the FF makes the regular season less. This ain't basketball. The regular season games have real meaning. At he end, the Bowls are a huge deal. Adding more teams robbs that. I love the bowl ganes as they are important to the teams. CFB is not just about #1, but the goal.

    In the past different things have been done to find the Champion for the year.
    The system now is much better than any before and has been spot on with no debate possible every time.

    Ed, I just don't understand why you are too sour to enjoy CFB as I believe it to be the best entertainment on the Planet. I guess it is a "geezer thing"?

    I enjoy your posts.
    I wonder if any here have the guts to post their thinking.

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    Chief Yardcrapper displays less leftist emotion and BS ^ and more 'logic'. But does not address the issue ("judges" deciding who plays for Championship and NOT play on the field by the PLAYERS and COACHES!). Just dodges it.

    Shortening the regular season by one "cream puff" game per year and adding ONE round to the playoff's would not aggravate any of your above 'concerns'. TOTALLY removing the extreme controversy and shit-storm that having a 'selection committee' anoint who gets to make the playoffs each year is WELL worth adding ONE round to the playoffs and having a system that depends only on who wins the conferences plus one wild card team!

    And having six teams instead of four more than makes up for the "sin" of perhaps allowing some conference winning team that is weaker than the others in (but how bad could they be if they won more games than all the other teams in their conference??). And if there are two great teams in one conference, then the wildcard takes care of this. If this is not good enough (and multiple strong conferences have 2 OR MORE great teams, then simply do away with the 1st round byes and go to THREE wildcard teams with now an 8 team playoff but STILL only three rounds!). See, I've thought of EVERYTHING! Bow to my superior logic and wisdom and use your influence () to MAKE CF adapt this GREAT playoff system now! Else I will come to S.C. and kick your old ass!
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    CFB Playoff System

    In order to group all thoughts pro and con as to the CFB Final Four system, please post all that thinking here.
    Try to refrain from posting them on other threads - thanks.

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    Thanks, Chief Yardcrapper! I'm ready willing and able to discuss this totally frivolous (except to all top rated CF players and coaches...) issue that none the less I believe to be at it's roots reflective of our changing values....and to be complex and complicated (by big money, tradition, powerful ego's, etc.).

    "Selection Committees" smacks of socialism and commies who despise individuals deciding their own fates and want total control over all 'cause they know best (who is worthy and who is not..) and being control freaks, they must decide who plays and not leave such things to a logical and "rule of law" process that is independent of ANYONE's opinion! We clearly currently have a commie CF playoff system....not a "free market" system where ANY team that wins its conference can make these playoffs. To me, that's America (like in the pro leagues..no commie "selection committees" there)!
    "Now my freedom's bought and paid for -- it lights up my living room
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    Follow the Money. Who gets in and who does not is partially decided by who will generate the most money. Simple Economics.

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    I like the system the way it is but I could live with 6 teams. So, Ed, I will semi-agree with you. I think with 6 spots, each major conference would have ample opportunity to get in. The way it is now, a power 5 conference winner can go undefeated and still not get in.

    At some point, I think they will modify the system to include at least a couple of more teams.

    But, it still will not stop the endless bitter debates about teams getting left out. Look at college basketball. Every year we hear endless complaints when team #69 gets unfairly left out of the tournament!

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